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« amazingfunksta wrote on Thursday, Sep 23 at 05:19 PM »
Erik, great article on the issue.
I'd like to add that if you want more information on the common arguments and rebuttals to the issue of concealed carry on campus, you can visit http://www.concealedcampus.org/common_arguments.php.
On this comment from the editorial Erik is responding to:
- “it would be difficult for police officers and trained professionals to decipher who was shooting whom,”
I'd like to add that it took officers 9 minutes to respond to the Virginia Tech shooting, after 33 individuals had already been murdered. In the majority of mass shooting situations, police don't respond to the scene until after the shooting has transpired and finished. Officers are highly unlikely to arrive to a panicked situation as the situation would more than likely be over.
Jeremy Vines,
Alabama State Director
Students for Concealed Carry on Campus
alabama@concealedcampus.org
« macgulley wrote on Thursday, Sep 23 at 02:49 PM »
Tasers are not permitted on campus.
« Douva wrote on Thursday, Sep 23 at 02:27 PM »
Rebuttal: http://www.campuscarry.com/2010/09/23/student-letter-to-the-editor-you-have-to-read-it-to-believe-it/#content
« notthatplain wrote on Thursday, Sep 23 at 12:07 PM »
The Frank Sinatra show was a great show with wonderful style and marching technique. The band works harder than most students at this school and they always strive to be the best at each and every game. And just so you know, the band is going to be playing a Lady Gaga show which includes Poker Face, Just Dance, and Bad Romance. I think you should support the band in all that they do. And if you don't then you can go to the school across the state that likes to criticize their band also.
« speighd wrote on Thursday, Sep 23 at 12:07 PM »
So you would feel safe at Columbine, Virginia Tech, UA Huntsville where CCH is not allowed?
You forget that laws only are followed by law abiding people. Criminals ignore laws by their very nature.
By banning CCH, the only thing it does is makes life easier for criminals.
They have nothing to fear from their victims.
Also if a CCH is used in other than self defense, the CCH permit holder is held to a higher standard and will get a more severe sentence, because they know the law. (Or at least that is what my local law enforcement officers tell me.)
« bentleeey wrote on Thursday, Sep 23 at 11:52 AM »
Aren't you a little old to be listening to Lady Gaga?
And why can't the flag and dance line be followed around by photographers on the field. There are other girls on the field who work hard, too.
« blinduh wrote on Thursday, Sep 23 at 10:09 AM »
I don't disagree with you that Sinatra isn't typical marching band slamming loud music, but maybe that's what the director is going for. I think he wants to keep the audience entertained with music of all kinds of genres. Including past shows like the Rolling Stones, Halloween themed, Skynyrd show, the Irish show, the Latin theme, etc. All the different "pop music" shows are during the Honor Band week and the Alumni game. Just wait a few more games and then decide what you think about their musical choices for the year.
« Waka wrote on Thursday, Sep 23 at 09:05 AM »
Someone who is going to follow you at night with the goal of shooting you doesn't care if there is a concealed weapon policy on campus!
« paper1 wrote on Thursday, Sep 23 at 05:57 AM »
It's a shame you haven't actually researched what you obviously have such strong feelings about. Look at the school shootings you mention and think about what each of them has in common. Every one of those school has/had a no-guns policy.
Now think about how many school shootings have happened in Utah, at the Blue Ridge Community College in VA or in Colorado Universities. None. All of those allow concealed carry on campus by students.
What you have is called an irrational fear, or phobia. Any competent mental health professional can help you overcome that phobia so you can lead a normal life free of such worry. Paying attention to history and actually researching your topic would do wonders to alleviate your fear as well.
« pnc0002 wrote on Wednesday, Sep 22 at 10:28 AM »
First, conceal carry is a very big responsibility and should not be something that everyone should necessarily take upon themselves. Before you even consider getting a conceal carry permit, you should do the following things: 1. You should pick out a handgun that is comfortable in your hands with a good weight to reduce kickback depending on your size and strength. 2. You should put at least 1,000 rounds through the gun you've selected to ensure proper break-in, find the rounds that you desire and ensure that they will feed properly and perform a run-and-gun. A run-and-gun is a high-paced shooting practice that will condition you to be a better shot and have the ability to think more clearly under stressful situations. 3. You should also find a comfortable and easily accessible concealed holster and practice your draw while at the shooting range. 4. As soon as you strap on that gun, you now have the ultimate responsibility to keep peace. Because you have the most destructive power, it is your job to be the most peaceful and defuse situations which might merit intervention with a fire arm. A GUN IS YOUR LAST RESORT. In regards to the author of this article: No one is a professional shooter (exempting competition shooters of course); not even the police. Police are merely the ones we pay to wield guns and actively practice the steps that I have outlined. Preservation of all human life should be the number one thought on your mind and in some extreme circumstances, producing a fire arm is the only way to preserve the lives of the innocent. I end with a haunting quote:
In January 2006, prior to the shootings, legislator Todd Gilbert had introduced a related bill into the Virginia House of Delegates. The bill, HB 1572, was intended to forbid public universities in Virginia from preventing students from lawfully carrying a concealed handgun on campus. The university opposed the bill, which quickly died in subcommittee. Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker praised the defeat of the bill, stating, "I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus."
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I'd like to add that if you want more information on the common arguments and rebuttals to the issue of concealed carry on campus, you can visit http://www.concealedcampus.org/common_arguments.php.
On this comment from the editorial Erik is responding to:
- “it would be difficult for police officers and trained professionals to decipher who was shooting whom,”
I'd like to add that it took officers 9 minutes to respond to the Virginia Tech shooting, after 33 individuals had already been murdered. In the majority of mass shooting situations, police don't respond to the scene until after the shooting has transpired and finished. Officers are highly unlikely to arrive to a panicked situation as the situation would more than likely be over.
Jeremy Vines,
Alabama State Director
Students for Concealed Carry on Campus
alabama@concealedcampus.org