House Reviews Casino Amnesty Bill
by Jillian Clair/ STAFF WRITER
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The House Tourism and Travel Committee approved a bill Jan. 20 which would provide casinos amnesty from all taxes, criminal prosecution and civil lawsuits. The bill would also allow casinos to be operated anywhere in Alabama.

House Bill 154, proposed by Rep. Marcel Black, D-Tuscumbia, will now go under consideration by the Alabama House of Representatives.

Black said the bill would provide state-regulated casinos a chance to compete with those on Native American reservation lands.

“I proposed it to allow operators who have electronic bingo to be on an even playing field with those Indian operators of electronic bingo and to allow them to have the same product and the same machines,” Black said.

Communications director for the governor’s office, Jeff Emerson, said the governor’s office is trying to inform legislators about the negative aspects of the bill and the harmful impact it will have on the state.

“When we tell legislators what’s really in this bill, they become very concerned about it,” Emerson said.

Gov. Bob Riley has continually opposed this type of legislation.

“It’s the taxpayers who are the ultimate losers,” Riley said in his State of the State address Jan. 12. “In states with casinos, for every one dollar casinos contribute in taxes, they cost taxpayers at least three dollars in additional government services to deal with the devastation the casinos leave behind.”

Emerson said the governor will veto the bill if it reaches his desk.

“Unfortunately in Alabama a veto can be overridden with just a simple majority vote,” Emerson said.

Emerson said the bill would allow anyone to open a casino anywhere in Alabama.

He gave an example of what could happen if the bill passes.

“If a company based in Las Vegas sells slot machines to VictoryLand, under the definitions in this bill, that company could come and open a casino in Alabama,” Emerson said.

Emerson said the bill, contrary to the Democrats’ promises, does not tax, regulate and limit gambling.

Doug Rainer, spokesman for Country Crossing, said there is another part of the legislation that will be introduced.

“A constitutional amendment is the next part of this that will be introduced that will tax, regulate and limit bingo in the state, and Country Crossing is also 100 percent behind that movement,” Rainer said.

Rainer said the profits from electronic bingo help Houston County.

“One hundred percent of net profits from electronic bingo all are distributed back to charities in the community,” Rainer said.

Todd Stacy, press secretary at the governor’s office, said the bill would cause much more harm than development.

Passing the bill would harm the economy, damage families and have negative political consequences, Stacy said.

“Money spent at the casino isn’t spent at the grocery store, at the hardware store, in the local economy where it’s really generating jobs,” Stacy said.

Emerson said some Democrats believe gambling is beneficial for the economy, but others rely on gambling to fund their campaigns.

“A major contributor to a lot of Democratic legislators is Milton McGregor,” Emerson said.

McGregor is the owner of VictoryLand and Quincy’s Triple Seven Bingo Casino, which offers more than 6,400 electronic bingo machines.
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Major_Pain
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January 31, 2010
Marcel Black & Johnny Mack Morrow are two of the best State Representatives McGregor’s money can buy!

http://bit.ly/bHZ5Ug (Marcel Black)

http://bit.ly/brrPW0 (Johnny Morrow)

Alabama’s PROBLEM:

Bingo Monopoly Gilley McGregor = Corrupt Sweet Home Alabama Bill

Corrupt Sweet Home Alabama Bill Unscrupulous Politicians = Corrupt Alabama Politics

Alabama’s SOLUTION:

Contact Marcel Black and Johnny Morrow and tell them to “Vote NO to BINGO”, and tell them to STOP letting McGregor corrupt Alabama Politics!

Watch & read the following:

http://bit.ly/cF9I7 (Indian Gaming)

http://bit.ly/5QlSeh (HB154 Video)
@somethingtoconsider
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January 29, 2010
*effective (NOT affective)

You lose.

haveityourway
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January 27, 2010
You have left me no other choice. You have failed to understand anything that I have said. I am really surprised that you have not had one of your stereotyping friends come to your rescue by now. This site seems to be full of them. Surprising unless they, unlike you, realize you are outmatched.

"No, your views are extremist, as in extreme left"

where exactly did I admit to A) being an extremist or B) from the "extreme left"

Wanting to help Americans makes me an extremist? Only "leftists" want to help other Americans? WOW! I can only imagine what glenn beck or o'reilly would say if they heard you saying that only leftists want to help americans!

It doesn't matter WHAT THE LINK IS. you quoted from wikipedia. end of story. It's not what you researched, it's how! if you are so confident that your "study" and "statistical information" is so accurate, then you should be able to naturally provide MULTIPLE examples, NOT just one. You still have not provided any evidence BESIDES your wiki article.

"And I think it's safe to assume that these statistics have not changed dramatically in the past two years."

O really? Our amount of debt has...The war overseas has...the view of our government in the public's eye has...Ya, you're right...nothing significant could ever change...

I will tell you what has not change. the timeless arguments you and people like you use and expect people to just roll over and give up because you are just too moronic to talk to.

"I'd like to ask again, if all of these people living below the poverty line are incapable of providing medical coverage for themselves and their families, why do so many of them have television, cable, and multiple cars?"

I don't know enough about the millions of Americans living below the poverty line...obviously you are pulling a jane goodall and have decided to live with the below the poverty line apes and have studied the exact ways of how ALL of them spend their money. puh-leeze. you're just pathetically defending your blanket stereotype.

(by the way your link goes to nowehere...coincidentally just like your argument thus far)

notice how in my first post i brought up the middle class. before you, like the escapist and denier you are, avoid the question. I never denied there were bad apples. (learn to read) I asked you about the middle class. you have yet to respond. All you have successfully done is prove to the world how stupid you are.

I am sure you will respond without even looking at anything you have already said, so I will expect to see the same argument a second time.

And no, I will not show you respect. You came on here trying to antagonize someone and you were successful. just bad luck you antagonized me.

served. a third time. you getting full?
auburnite
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January 27, 2010
I really wish y'all would give me the same respect I've given you by refraining from name-calling and actually responding to what I say and not the ideals you assume I hold.

"ya...try again....you provide one "source" from wikipedia, which while it does contain "links". It's 2010, not 2007 buddy."

The source is actually not wikipedia, I merely found it through wikipedia. Here is the direct source http://www.timbro.se/bokhandel/pdf/9175665646.pdf

And I think it's safe to assume that these statistics have not changed dramatically in the past two years.

"A "flimsy system"...well genius...all knowing healthcare guru...what label would you assign to our system now??? Affective? "

As I said, our current system is not perfect but I don't think that throwing a blanket called universal healthcare over the problem is going to fix it. The time you spend waiting for healthcare will increase and healthcare providers will have much lower incomes and thus be less motivated to give you the care you deserve, as well as be less motivated to enter the medical industry at all. The left and right have got to stop throwing insults at each other and find a more pragmatic solution.

"BTW auburnite....how is stating facts and provide information to back up my claims make me "an extremist"?"

No, your views are extremist, as in extreme left, and your response was glib and blew off my original inquiry to go on and assume I held certain beliefs so that you could then insult those beliefs.

"Does being knowledgeable and wanting to have a debate based on facts and not, as you offered "personal experience", make me an extremist, who by definition is so entrenched in my own preconceived notions and stereotypes that I am absolutely, 100 percent sure I am right..."

I love facts which is why I provided the study and specific statistics I did. I only threw in the bit about my personal experience to bolster the numbers.

"wow.on second thought.from what you have said...that sounds more like you??"

I don't think I've said anything that points to extremism. I'm a moderate in most political arenas. I don't think I'm 100% right and you're 100% wrong, I just pointed out a fact which you have thus far ignored entirely because it's inconvenient for you.

I'd like to ask again, if all of these people living below the poverty line are incapable of providing medical coverage for themselves and their families, why do so many of them have television, cable, and multiple cars?
@auburniteagain
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January 27, 2010
Thank you somethingtoconsider

glad I am not the only one thinking around here.

BTW auburnite....how is stating facts and provide information to back up my claims make me "an extremist"?

Does being knowledgeable and wanting to have a debate based on facts and not, as you offered "personal experience", make me an extremist, who by definition is so entrenched in my own preconceived notions and stereotypes that I am absolutely, 100 percent sure I am right...

wow.on second thought.from what you have said...that sounds more like you??

care to revise your statement? Go search wikipedia some more...I am sure you will find the answers there.

served seconds....and liked it
somethingtoconsider
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January 27, 2010
"I found this study via wikipedia which contains the source"

ya...try again....you provide one "source" from wikipedia, which while it does contain "links". It's 2010, not 2007 buddy.

compare your response to you "attacker".

They were right to call you a moron. That is what you are. You bring one wikipedia source and never actually answer their question. So ergo you failed again.

Any other brain busters?

A "flimsy system"...well genius...all knowing healthcare guru...what label would you assign to our system now??? Affective?

hahaha and we don't need to know about your "personal experience" with the poor....wow....

flushing money down the toilet??...i guess you never calculated that price tag it cost us last year....2009....not 2007....

I hate it when people start trying to argue with informed people using pathetic wikipedia sources...

try harder
auburnite
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January 27, 2010
I always find it terribly ironic when an extremist spouts insults at a perceived opponent, calling them ignorant and glib while guilty of being just that.

According to a 2007 study, 46% of poor households in the US owned their own homes, 30% had two or more cars, and 63% received cable or satellite TV. I found this study via wikipedia which contains the source, if you're interested. I've also found this to be true through personal experience with low-income households.

My point isn't that people are evil or lazy and thus we should leave each person to their own devices, but that universal healthcare in the US will be a flimsy system, abused by those who don't need it and inefficient to the point of obsolete for those who do need it.

Our current system isn't perfect, but I believe the universal healthcare will be metaphorically flushing money down the toilet until everything is thoroughly clogged and we're all wading around in the backed up crap.

And the next time you want to debate someone, maybe not start out by screaming insults and disrespectful assumptions about their personal beliefs of which you know nothing. Just something to consider.
@auburnite
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January 26, 2010
what a horrible argument....

I can go ahead and guarantee that number is probably a fraction so small it is insignificant.

If you're are going to base your ENTIRE argument against helping AMERICAN CITIZENS obtain health insurance on bad apples who take advantage of a system. You are an idiot with no basis on which to be allowed to make an opinion.

We spent 16 percent of our GPD on healthcare in this country last year....Ya. I will let you do the rest of the work of figuring that exact price tag out. I won't do all the work for you.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/09/AR2006010901932.html

So, auburnite, the question really is have YOU ever looked at the percentage of normal, middle class, everyday americans (not these poor, inbred bastards of welfare that you are stereotyping and lumping into one catagory) who do not have healthcare that their places of employment "promise" them?

No you probably don't, which is why you feel the need to bring up the age old argument of "the lazy people". If we based our lives and decisions on the people who were "bad" would anything in this country ever have gotten done?

So again Auburnite. If you wanna bring an argument to the table. Bring your statistics, not just something Glenn Beck or Sean Hannity just happened to ramble off to take up air time. Remember those people you "trust" are trying to make money. They are a business. Not a source of information. You have to be the journalist. Bring your proof. Don't just say it. Show it. Until then, you are just one more dumbass, misinformed "patriot" screaming that you are the "rightest"!

"“The health care system has serious problems. Costs are rising at three times the inflation rate. Many Americans are uninsured. Millions more fear losing their insurance in a weak economy or because of pre-existing conditions. Doctors are ready to close their doors because of high malpractice insurance costs and low government reimbursement rates. Everyone agrees that something must be done.”

-- Sen. Charles Grassley of Iowa, the ranking Republican on the Senate Finance Committee

Lieberman's wife makes millions for christ sake from pharm and insurance lobbyists!!!!! Talk about a freaking bias! can you IMAGINE what they would do if that was a democrat working against a piece of republican legislation!? He would be crucified!

The insurance companies/private sector the republicans, who are paid by lobbyists, (http://www.alternet.org/health/141566)

are wanting to protect is concerned and consumed with one thing...it's not health care....it's money. Again go look at the yearly profits turned by the private sector and compare that to the no cap premiums they charge. IT IS ALL PROFIT. Only an idiot would argue that it was not. Are you going to be that idiot and try to locate someplace that proves me wrong?

The insurance companies have already packed up and moved on. They are currently trying to insure the people of China. That's where the money has gone. (http://insurancenewsnet.com/article.aspx?id=154802&type=newswires)

again. Auburnite. That is how research is done. Not just saying one thing that someone else has already said.

served
auburnite
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January 26, 2010
@aman56pu

The thing is, have you ever looked at the percentage of those people who "just cannot afford medical" that own large televisions with extended cable packages? Because it's not zero.
aman56pu@aol.com
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January 26, 2010
Shame on the BIBLE BELT STATES

for voting on Senators and Congress that will DENY medical help for the 50 million people who just can not afford medical. SHAME on You BIBLE BELT Thumpers. over One THOUSAND per Day die only because no public option.
anonymous
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January 26, 2010
Milton McGregor and Ronnie Gilley must be mentally challenged if they believe Alabama wants Phenix City's history brought back to life.

http://bit.ly/4Fo6hB (Phenix City's History)

http://bit.ly/5yf2n9 (YouTube)

2) http://bit.ly/cF9I7 (Indian Gaming)

3) http://bit.ly/7NybMD (Response to BINGO)

We know that each Bingo machine brings

in $150 Profit a day x 365 days x 20,000 machines = $1 Billon dollars a year.

Alabama cannot afford to "trust" Milton & Ronnie's

moral compass will lead our state to a brighter future.

Just say "NO" to BINGO!